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Post by johnny23 on Aug 11, 2012 9:44:10 GMT 1
I think he looked way better at the Dark Shadows Premiere and last year he looked amazing at Cannes, maybe too much eyeliner, when he was smiling like on stage or signing autographs he looked better but when he was serious I think he looked quite bad  |
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Post by magicmoment on Aug 11, 2012 9:50:45 GMT 1
maybe he tried of filming The Lone Ranger. it's a hot hot weather there.
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Post by cat on Aug 11, 2012 10:04:04 GMT 1
Facts we have are pics of Amber taking the same private plane as Johnny in Las Vegas and maybe entering in his car at Creede (w saw only the back of this woman but she had the same bag as Amber on other pics)... But we can't know if they have / had a love affair or are just friends. finally someone that gets it!, Personally I find it quite hard to believe it was just an innocent friendship going on, also Amber is not a lesbian, she had boyfriends and she says she is bisexual but she 'doesn't want to label herself'... and if you look back at Johnny's relationships since he is 30 years old he hasn't dated women of his age, at least 10 years younger, Winona was 18 years old while he was around 27, I guess Kate was 20 years old and he 31, Vanessa 25 and he 35.. What utter nonsense. And his first wife was several years older than he was ! Ellen Barkin was older than him when they had an alleged affair. Patti Smith is older than him and he spends an awful lot of time with her. I don't see how Amber Heard being younger points to her being ripe pickings for him to have an affair with! Clearly Johnny is capable of having relationships - romantic or platonic with women of all ages. |
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 11, 2012 10:56:51 GMT 1
maybe he tried of filming The Lone Ranger. it's a hot hot weather there. Honestly it's very normal he looks tired with Lone Ranger shooting and all his problems in his private life ! (the split with Vanessa but also his mum's health problems...) |
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Post by magicmoment on Aug 11, 2012 11:07:24 GMT 1
maybe he tried of filming The Lone Ranger. it's a hot hot weather there. Honestly it's very normal he looks tired with Lone Ranger shooting and all his problems in his private life ! (the split with Vanessa but also his mum's health problems...) and also a concert lawsuit. poor Johnny |
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Post by omorfis on Aug 11, 2012 11:23:48 GMT 1
For me they had no problems until the end of 2011, when started promo tour of the "Rum diary".Then Johnny was everywhere with Amber and then Vanessa removed her ring.I don't think that it was a coincidence!
His behavior of a few months is different,like he wants to catch up and get back to his old day.
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 11, 2012 11:30:57 GMT 1
It's what I said above : something must have happened so Vanessa suddenly changed her speech and behaviour towards Johnny...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2012 12:30:23 GMT 1
His behavior of a few months is different,like he wants to catch up and get back to his old day. Agree!I think this is why Johnny has not looked his best ,on top of all that's going on in his life right now. |
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 11, 2012 13:55:49 GMT 1
In ELLE article, Vanessa says 'in a relationship, if there is no more wish, it can't work'. 'You have to want to be there. And now I want to be here where I am today'... Not sure if I write this well in English but I have the feeling she wants to say she did not want to be with Johnny anymore...  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2012 14:11:47 GMT 1
Maybe it was her or maybe it was him or maybe both of them didn't want be together anymore,it could be either one.
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Post by kittycat88 on Aug 11, 2012 14:15:44 GMT 1
I think she missed living in Paris...I don't think she liked LA to much.
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Post by shellysmom on Aug 11, 2012 15:44:29 GMT 1
Maybe it was her or maybe it was him or maybe both of them didn't want be together anymore,it could be either one. I agree. Both of them have to want to be in a relationship for it to work. In English "you" can refer to one person or to more than one person (singular or plural). I would love to know if she actually said it that way or if it just translated that way from French to English. |
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 11, 2012 15:51:09 GMT 1
In French, it's the same : you = 'vous' plural but also singular in some cases.
Actually, she said precisely 'il faut avoir envie' but 'il faut' is an unpersonal term which can refer to one or several persons. The right translation could be : 'wish has to be there'.
But she adds : "now I want to be here" (that is out of this relationship) so it's clear now it's her who does not want to. (Even maybe Johnny did bad things towards her so she did not want to stay with him... )
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Post by rednev on Aug 11, 2012 16:01:14 GMT 1
Forgive me if I'm wrong but didn't Vanessa take off her ring a couple of months before Johnny did? Something very telling it that I think.
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Post by shellysmom on Aug 11, 2012 16:19:25 GMT 1
In French, it's the same : you = 'vous' plural but also singular in some cases. But she adds : "now I want to be here" (that is out of this relationship) so it's clear now it's her who does not want to. (Even maybe Johnny did bad things towards her so she did not want to stay with him... ) "Now I want to be here" can also mean she is happy with the way her life is now. To me it does not necessarily mean that she wanted out. I guess I will agree to disagree with you on this. |
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 11, 2012 16:42:26 GMT 1
Yes, it can mean that too... But it would mean she is happy of the split ?
Which Johnny's ring do you talk about Rednev ?
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Post by rednev on Aug 11, 2012 17:33:48 GMT 1
Yes, it can mean that too... But it would mean she is happy of the split ? Which Johnny's ring do you talk about Rednev ? The blue and white one which may or not have been an eternity ring. He seemed to be wearing it all the time (since around 2009 I think) but I'm fairly sure he took it off in January/February. I could be wrong though I haven't seen any close ups of Johnny's hand for a while lol. Just something that intrigues me for some reason. |
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Post by flo116 on Aug 11, 2012 17:44:02 GMT 1
I just want to thank everyone for all your discussion about this very sad situation. I enjoy reading everyone's opinion and those of you whose first language is not English do a great job and thank you for your translations.
I would love to learn French but at my age just seems so difficult... it is such a beautiful language.
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 11, 2012 18:09:45 GMT 1
It's never too late, Flo116.
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Post by Noemie on Aug 11, 2012 18:28:26 GMT 1
It's never too late, Flo116.
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