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Post by shellysmom on Aug 11, 2012 18:29:58 GMT 1
Yes, it can mean that too... But it would mean she is happy of the split ? Which Johnny's ring do you talk about Rednev ? Or it could mean that she has *accepted* the split and is happy with her life the way it is. Does it matter who was the first to want the split or who was the first to take off their ring? It does not change the outcome. They split up and they are moving on with their lives. People can eventually find happiness after a split. |
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Post by shellysmom on Aug 11, 2012 18:37:02 GMT 1
I just want to thank everyone for all your discussion about this very sad situation. I enjoy reading everyone's opinion and those of you whose first language is not English do a great job and thank you for your translations. I would love to learn French but at my age just seems so difficult... it is such a beautiful language. I would love to learn French too. I like to listen to interviews because French sounds so beautiful. I told my daughter she needs to take French when she is in High School. She is going into 8th grade and is taking Spanish II. |
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 11, 2012 19:12:36 GMT 1
Actually, learning Spanish is more useful in the world than French ! LOL
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Post by cari on Aug 11, 2012 21:15:44 GMT 1
Kind of interesting to read the discussion about the ring. Earlier, when discussion about her removing the ring was brought up, everyone got upset...saying it meant nothing. Most fans of Johnny knew something was way out of line in their relationship for months before the announcement. They were living entirely separate lives. She didn't even attend Jack's birthday party that Johnny arranged. If that didn't scream "trouble," I don't know what did. Now, I just want them to both move on and be happy, which I'm sure they will. They just grew so far apart. I don't think they had much in common.
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 11, 2012 21:39:31 GMT 1
I don't think they had much in common. Why do you say that ? At the opposite, I always thought they have many tastes and things in common. Vanessa herself said it. She said he was her best friend, beside to be her lover... Then you don't need to have a lot in common to manage a relationship. |
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Post by pearl on Aug 11, 2012 21:39:37 GMT 1
A different point of view to their split:
JOHNNY DEPP FAMILY FEUD
Published on: August 10, 2012
by NATIONAL ENQUIRER staff
JOHNNY DEPP and ex, VANESSA PARADIS are battling over their wild-child daughter Lily-Rose – who’s 13 going on 30!
The “Pirates of the Caribbean” star, 49, wants to prevent the precocious teen from pursuing a Hollywood career, sources say, but singer/actress Vanessa, 39, doesn’t agree.
“Johnny still thinks of Lily-Rose as the little 7-year-old that he almost lost to E. coli poisoning, and he’s deeply concerned that Vanessa is letting her run wild,” said an insider.
“He doesn’t want Lily-Rose, or her brother Jack, thinking about anything but school until they’re 18. But Vanessa is letting Lily-Rose explore her creative side by allowing her to wear funky outfits, and she’s schlepping her to acting auditions.
“Vanessa and Johnny have been having screaming matches over Lily-Rose. It’s gotten ugly.”
Depp and Vanessa hooked up in 1998, but never married, and raised Lily-Rose and Jack, 10, at their home in the South of France. Since their split, the actor has been living in Los Angeles while Vanessa is looking for a home in Malibu.
As The ENQUIRER has reported, the French beauty is waging a full-scale palimony battle for her share of Depp’s $350 million fortune, and she’s banned one of his latest girlfriends, bisexual actress Amber Heard, from going near their children.
Depp is also dealing with the ongoing medical problems of his 77-year-old mother, who recently moved from Kentucky to Los Angeles for specialized care.
“Johnny enlisted his mom to help out with parenting duties, but her health issues are taking precedence now,” said the source.
“He’s so worried about Lily-Rose that he’s even turned to his good pals Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie for advice.
“Johnny knows that if his little girl gets involved in the Hollywood scene, she’s going to grow up a lot faster. And he doesn’t want to see her turn into the next Lindsay Lohan.”
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Post by johnny23 on Aug 11, 2012 22:37:21 GMT 1
In the new interview she says she is happy, when asked about Johnny she barely mentions him without even saying his name and the question was not about the split but quickly she says she doesn't want to talk about him, makes me think the split was not that amicable like they tried to make it look like, is he is already a bad memory for her?  . But on the other hand glad to know she is happy now ;D . |
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Post by johnny23 on Aug 11, 2012 22:56:18 GMT 1
that family feud thing is a made up story here it's being discussed www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=318323&p=4390752#p4390752like they say Johnny has no contact with the jolie pitts and why would he ask for advice to someone who dress their little girl shiloh like a boy  Lily's clothing is just a phase I guess because she sees other girls dressing like that, including her friends, she seems like a quiet daddy and mommy's girl, and I remember seeing Lily wearing the shots at least twice with Johnny, so I guess they both allow her to dress like that they are both very good parents, and the money story is false.. I call it all BS, very badly made up story. |
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Post by cari on Aug 12, 2012 2:00:38 GMT 1
Well, it's the National Enquirer, what can you expect. They are the worst of the worse. Like it or not, Lily Rose dresses like most other girls her age. It still amazes me that people read, and even worse, believe that trash. As for "interviews" with Vanessa...it's highly doubtful she has said anything about the separation. Writers can put any slant they want on things, but it doesn't make it true. And "glad to know she's happy now?" And how do you know her state of mind? Have you spoken to her?
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Post by johnny23 on Aug 12, 2012 3:51:00 GMT 1
cari I meant that Vanessa looked quite bad early this year, now she looks well relaxed and healthy it's quite easy to see the change, and she says she feels happy in these new interview and I am glad for her she seems like a strong woman  as for Lily I don't understand what is the problem with her clothing people overreact a lot I see other girls of her age dressing like her, no big deal , and No she didn't said anything about the separation but this is what she says here's a bit translated by nounours "Cornwall" takes place in Brittany like "Élisa". Does this shooting remind you a lot of memories ? "Élisa" is a marvellous memory... I enjoy looking back, remember all these beautiful things that I lived. And I often think to people that are dead. To Serge Gainsbourg, for example, who made me grow artistically speaking. I remember when we were in the studio. He was someone who was so intense, extreme and, with a huge delicacy. He could be so radiant, and, suddenly, so gloomy. Is Johnny Depp like that ? It would be too personal to say yes, but I think if they met each other, they would become the best friends in the world ! But I don't want to speak about him... Who said artists must sell their soul, to reveal everything ? It's my duty to promote this movie, my albums, but imagine what is it when you see the others make business with your pain. What happens to us, it's private. Read more: vanessaparadisinfo.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=vpnewspress&action=display&thread=1792&page=2#ixzz23ISvx7sv |
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 12, 2012 7:57:03 GMT 1
In the new interview she says she is happy, when asked about Johnny she barely mentions him without even saying his name and the question was not about the split but quickly she says she doesn't want to talk about him, makes me think the split was not that amicable like they tried to make it look like, is he is already a bad memory for her? . But on the other hand glad to know she is happy now ;D . No, I think she said that 'I don't want to talk about him' because she does not want to express too private things. She protects her private life as she always does. |
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Post by josette on Aug 12, 2012 9:32:28 GMT 1
In the new interview she says she is happy, when asked about Johnny she barely mentions him without even saying his name and the question was not about the split but quickly she says she doesn't want to talk about him, makes me think the split was not that amicable like they tried to make it look like, is he is already a bad memory for her? . But on the other hand glad to know she is happy now ;D . No, I think she said that 'I don't want to talk about him' because she does not want to express too private things. She protects her private life as she always does. and we know this how? eer don't get me wrong, not trying to be bitchy but maybe she just doesn't really want to talk about him and things didn't ended up as nicely as we thought.. I'd like to hear what Johnny says, Vanessa is extremely extremely private.. well, I was saying I'd like to hear what Johnny says because he has always been quite more open about his relationships he even talked about ups and downs even with Vanessa once he metioned they had an argue, his fault he said, he said they were living separated for some couple of weeks but they got back together (that was in 1999 when Lily was a baby of months), and he has also mentioned in interviews why he split with some of his ex girlfriends etc.. maybe he is a little more private now but I think he could say something more or not, maybe he will just skip the questions, we will have to wait until the lone ranger promotion next year sorry for this very long message |
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 12, 2012 9:36:08 GMT 1
I know this because it's how she always did ! being quiet about her private life !!! And she will keep on doing that !
In the ELLE interview, she adds 'what happens to us is only our business'. It's not business of the readers !
It's clear, no ?
It's like you absolutely want to blame Johnny in this split !
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Post by josette on Aug 12, 2012 9:44:56 GMT 1
I know this because it's how she always did ! being quiet about her private life !!! And she will keep on doing that ! In the ELLE interview, she adds 'what happens to us is only our business'. It's not business of the readers ! It's clear, no ? It's like you absolutely want to blame Johnny in this split ! no, you are not understanding me, that she doesn't want to talk about him doesn't meant "he is 100% guilty" what I wanted to say it's that maybe things didn't end up so nicely MUTUALLY |
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 12, 2012 10:05:26 GMT 1
And you, you did not understand what Vanessa said in ELLE : she does not want to talk about her private life to readers and journalists because that's not their business !
Does mean nothing about how things end up between them !
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 12, 2012 10:27:52 GMT 1
I'm so tired...
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Post by johnny23 on Aug 12, 2012 10:44:45 GMT 1
WOW you can't say anything here, people get angry and offended so easily by anything, I was reading the old pages since the split announcement hoping to find good comments and it's all ridiculous fights, not a nice place to comment, I'd better go only to the news threads before someone decides to trash me as well..
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Post by blackwidow on Aug 12, 2012 10:53:07 GMT 1
WOW you can't say anything here, people get angry and offended so easily by anything, I was reading the old pages since the split announcement hoping to find good comments and it's all ridiculous fights, not a nice place to comment, I'd better go only to the news threads before someone decides to trash me as well.. Wise advice, I will delete my last comment, you know too many personal opinions that I know will not be respected, do you know any other Vanessa forum? if you know any where you can share your thoughts please PM me |
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Post by johnny23 on Aug 12, 2012 10:59:02 GMT 1
WOW you can't say anything here, people get angry and offended so easily by anything, I was reading the old pages since the split announcement hoping to find good comments and it's all ridiculous fights, not a nice place to comment, I'd better go only to the news threads before someone decides to trash me as well.. Wise advice, I will delete my last comment, you know too many personal opinions that I know will not be respected, do you know any other Vanessa forum? if you know any where you can share your thoughts please PM me I am sorry I don't know to send PM's  but you can go to vanessaparadis.net forum if you speak french there's a thread for rumours and I see they never argue but it's not being so updated the last days I don't comment there but I like reading what they say |
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 12, 2012 10:59:18 GMT 1
I leave this discussion too.
Fed up with both rumors and people who extrapolate and translate facts and talks like they want to.
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Lily's clothing is just a phase I guess because she sees other girls dressing like that, including her friends, she seems like a quiet daddy and mommy's girl, and I remember seeing Lily wearing the shots at least twice with Johnny, so I guess they both allow her to dress like that they are both very good parents, and the money story is false..
as for Lily I don't understand what is the problem with her clothing people overreact a lot I see other girls of her age dressing like her, no big deal 
but you can go to vanessaparadis.net forum if you speak french there's a thread for rumours and I see they never argue but it's not being so updated the last days