Important: Johnny talks about "Rumors"

[avi]

Some media are attributing the story about Johnny and Vanessa to some kind of desperation from People Magazine because "US Weekly" has been surpassing them all the year... media says that People have been making some "surprisingly aggressive moves" to try and reassert their dominance, and the cover story about JD/Van split was a big "miscalculation"

[Lotanx3]

LOL I'm so happy to read these things. People does not deserve any recognition and appreciation from anybody. They announced a split by copying info from another shallow tabloids, they're not better than any other tabloid.

[cat]

I must admit to being a little annoyed at the fact that Vanessa denied these rumours months ago yet the tabloids would not believe her and some mocked her response. Now Depp has denied it they don't believe it or are saying it was true at the time but now they have worked some kind of arrangement out!
This totally disgusts me. The people that write for these magazines really are the scum of the earth.

[Lotanx3]

I totally agree with you, cat. Really. They considered Vanessa's denial as a deflection from the truth, but when Johnny said something, they ignored it or said that now it's confirmed that they didn't split. They don't take Vanessa seriously and it's pissing me off. Although it was pretty obvious, Johnny has more impact on the media, especially inside the U.S. But indeed they are the scum of the earth, I can't stand these shallow newspapers.

[Emilie-Jolie]

People magazine are in an interesting position because their USP is that they are reliable and friendly with the stars. But that also causes them problems at times, like with the allegations against John Travolta this week, they HAD to publish a small article mentioning it even though they were loath to do so because of their good 'relationship' with him.

Lainey Gossip's blog offers an interesting take on the whole situation (and she is at least free from the politics of the magazines)

That sounds...emphatic, right? It doesn’t leave much, if any, room for interpretation. With Johnny finally clarifying the situation and Vanessa previously denouncing the rumours, can we drop this now? Are we done with this story?

Well... not quite.

After all, the origin of it wasn’t In Touch or Life & Style or even Star. If that were the case, this would not have escalated the way it did. Remember, the origin was PEOPLE. Ass-kissy PEOPLE. PEOPLE doesn’t take on a breakup story unless it’s approved directly from the celebrity and/or their source is super legit and locked tight. And they were so confident of it they put it ON THE COVER. It was a HUGE splashy cover.

What happened here?

I can’t see PEOPLE having the balls to go ahead with their report without the consent of Robin Baum, Johnny Depp’s longtime publicist. No way. One possibility then may be that that’s indeed where the relationship was heading at the time and Johnny was beginning his exit strategy. When Vanessa issued a denial though, it may have been a sign to his team that she wasn’t prepared to go quietly, that perhaps it would cost him. Too cynical?

How about they were indeed separated but have since worked things out? Every couple has hard seasons. You have to gut them out. Too naive?

I wonder though if there isn’t more to the whole Robin Baum connection. Rumours have been circulating for months that Johnny’s relationship with Robin was upsetting to Vanessa. A French tabloid suggested it last year, it was picked up here and there by one of the publications in North American, never really gained ground and I’ve not been able to get anything reliable from anyone to clarify either way but still, it’s a gauzy little whisper that won’t seem to die...

What if it was Robin who leaked the story to PEOPLE to force Vanessa’s hand, like an ultimate bitch battle over a man? Too conspiratorial?

There, your buffet options. Me I’m somewhere in between Too Cynical and Too Conspiratorial and the final option, in case you needed one:

PEOPLE has been getting asskicked by Us Weekly (and other outlets) all year. Lately they’ve been making some surprisingly aggressive moves to try and reassert their dominance. They Johnny Depp story could have been a miscalculation?

Not to say that ANY of that is true, and we will never know but it throws up some questions. If People magazine hadn't come out wth that cover these rumours would never have gone as far as they did. There are rumours of Johnny having affairs with nearly every female co-star he has but they're never taken as seriously as this break-up rumour was. People magazine must be pssed that their relaible reputation has been knocked now.
Anyway I'm just glad Johnny has come out in denial too, and in fairness nearly all the media outlets I have seen who published the split rumours have equally published his (& Vanessa's) denials so maybe it would have been best f he spoke sooner but hopefully its all over now, finally!

[Lotanx3]

I don't know that Lainey Gossip site, but it sounds like another rubbish site. It's over, they should just move on and stop speculating pointless speculations. The credibility of People got worse and worse before the split rumors, but the split rumors were the record of their uncredibility. I never trusted People, but they seemed to be a bit more kind and trust-worthy than others.

I'm just glad that now there's a comment of Vanessa AND Johnny. So now more people will know what's really going on.

[pearl]

Actually if you read comments on Johnny's denial,you will see that most people still thinks they're kind of over but not totally for the sake of their children.So he was right,no matter what he say it's a losing game:/

[Lotanx3]

I agree with you pearl. Didn't bother to read comments, actually, but I predicted that. I truly believe Johnny, his denial is firm. It's not the first time that tabloids announce celebrities' split-up and it appeare to be false, and it won't be the last time.
As he said, no matter what he'll say, people think the opposite.

[cat]

Lainey gossip is exactly that gossip. She is no more credible than any of the other and it is clearly her opinion nothing else.

People that read trashy tabloid sites and believe everything they read will defend the rag rather than the celebrity being discussed. I don't know what kind of simpleton believes unamed sources over the actual people being discussed.
But I am sure those that thrive of this kind of gossip will not have to wait long for the next story to come along and keep their little minds active for a while.

[leslie]

The only sites which didn't get on this band wagon, that I could see were Just Jared, which did post Vanessa's statement that the rumours were false, but they didn't report the original rumour, and TMZ, which I'm happy to say hasn't even mentioned it at all. People sometimes get mad at TMZ for posting some really personal issues at times, but I've learned that they at least try to get their facts straight.

I think it's these rumours which brought me back here. They were upsetting me when they ignored Vanessa's comments, so I needed to be amongst people who would defend her and whose comments would be made out of concern for her.

[bibelot]

Here is my opinion (please don't jump on me for it): I have tremendous respect for the way Johnny and Vanessa parent their children. As the mum to 2 lovely boys, I have empathy for their unique situation and they are doing a brilliant job in dealing with it.

Having said that, and with full understanding of Johnny's view of the Hollywood "machine", there is ONE thing that would put ALL of the rumors to rest:

They need to appear together - in public. That would send a loud and clear message.
Even IF they aren't together, it would send a wonderful message to their kiddies that Mum and Dad still support one another.

[Serendipity]

Lainey Gossip is an interesting situation because she used to be an ENORMOUS fan of Johnny and Vanessa, just like us, she really followed both of them pretty closely, but has lately grown disenchanted and spiteful and bitter. She's just like all of us, confused, but with a big mouth.

[leslie]

Appearing together doesn't necessarily work, because people will just say that it's a photo-op to appear to be together, to shut up the rumours. They said that when Will and Jada appeared together after rumours started up about them.

They really can't win when these tabloids just want to print garbage. They certainly shouldn't need to feel obligated to appear together, just to shut them up.

[Lotanx3]

I agree with you, Leslie. Beside, I don't think they should appeare in public together to shut people up. As you said, it won't change anything for real, and they just don't like it.
For me, their denial is enough, even though many people still think they broke up. They both said that it doesn't matter what they'll say, people will think something else.

[bibelot]

When I said that they should be seen together, I wasn't talking about a red carpet appearance.
While not frequent, there used to be photos of the family together: in airports, on walks, at football games, shopping, etc. I get that these were dreaded paparazzi photos, but they were images of a family together.
It's perturbing that they haven't been seen together in a very long time.
True Fans Care. It goes along with all the other "occupational hazards" of fame. I don't think that we need to feel guilty for caring because we all know ( andI believe that Vanessa and Johnny know) that in end, we just want each of them and their children to be happy and well.

[omorfis]

May 13, 2012 14:05:41 GMT 1 bibelot said:

It's perturbing that they haven't been seen together in a very long time.

This is not true.The last summer they were photographed on the boat- very nice photos.And unlike the people who lead separate lives

[jcd]

And you've seen them together on walk with their son Jack in LA, November 2011. And the whole family was together on an Iggy Pop concert, December 2011.

[magicmoment]

It's not a long time.
As jcd said , They walked with their son in November 2011.
Johnny and Vanessa are not Brangelina. They don't always appear together.
we saw them together only 3-4 times per year.

[Lotanx3]

Agree with jcd and magicmoment. It's not special that they don't appeare together, they both have their own careers and their own projects, but they do appeare together once in a while. I can't recall any appearance of them together last year except for the one on their yacht and with their son.
Vanessa and Johnny said what they had to say about this issue and now people can choose wether to believe it or not. They both said that no matter what, people will think the opposite, but now that they both made a comment, I'm, personally, much more relaxed. Johnny was also talking about My American Lover in a very recent interview, saying that right now they both are really busy and over all they have at least 15 projects on the list, My American Lover is one of them and they consider it as something they would love to do. I don't think he'd say it if the rumors were false...
Anyway they both work in different locations and on different things, so no wonder they don't show up together.

[leslie]

They need some serious "hide out on the island" alone time together, with the family.

Most of the times they're photographed together are when they're on personal time, which isn't cool. Most of us get to work 9-5 and then we go home. They have to be big stars even if it's like 3:00 a.m. and they're making a drive-thru food run or something. How annoying that must be.