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Post by cat on May 13, 2012 21:20:29 GMT 1
Here is my opinion (please don't jump on me for it): I have tremendous respect for the way Johnny and Vanessa parent their children. As the mum to 2 lovely boys, I have empathy for their unique situation and they are doing a brilliant job in dealing with it. Having said that, and with full understanding of Johnny's view of the Hollywood "machine", there is ONE thing that would put ALL of the rumors to rest: They need to appear together - in public. That would send a loud and clear message. Even IF they aren't together, it would send a wonderful message to their kiddies that Mum and Dad still support one another. I actually think it is the wrong message to send to their children. The thought of anyone needing to put on a public display like that makes me sick to my stomach. The kids see them in private they don't need to see their parents put on a show for the gossips and bottomfeeders. The only message that would send to the children is "see we have to do this because we as a celebrities don't deserve a private life" also as others have pointed out it will fuel the rumours because people will cry that it is all for show. I have said it before I see them doing nothing differently than they have in the last few years. Now both Vanessa and Johnny have both said the rumours are false not sure what people expect them to do but I doubt they will do it. |
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Post by bibelot on May 13, 2012 21:32:47 GMT 1
They were photographed on the boat 9 months ago. I consider that a long time. Walking with Jack in November was 6 months ago. As far as the concert goes, I don't recall seeing any proof (photos) that they attended together. Did I miss something?
I consider 9 and 6 months a long time to not be seen together as a couple, no matter how busy the schedules, especially considering there have been events where it would have been entirely appropriate to attend together.
I respect Vanessa and her comment regarding the situation. Same goes for Johnny. It surely must be extremely frustrating that they find themselves having to even comment on their personal lives without giving away too much information that is not anyone's business. I only suggest a photo because , even though true fans do respect, it might be a way to send a message to the rest of the world - i.e. the media.
I personally want the rumors to stop, and not contribute to their frustration.
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Post by Lotanx3 on May 13, 2012 21:46:06 GMT 1
Here is my opinion (please don't jump on me for it): I have tremendous respect for the way Johnny and Vanessa parent their children. As the mum to 2 lovely boys, I have empathy for their unique situation and they are doing a brilliant job in dealing with it. Having said that, and with full understanding of Johnny's view of the Hollywood "machine", there is ONE thing that would put ALL of the rumors to rest: They need to appear together - in public. That would send a loud and clear message. Even IF they aren't together, it would send a wonderful message to their kiddies that Mum and Dad still support one another. I actually think it is the wrong message to send to their children. The thought of anyone needing to put on a public display like that makes me sick to my stomach. The kids see them in private they don't need to see their parents put on a show for the gossips and bottomfeeders. The only message that would send to the children is "see we have to do this because we as a celebrities don't deserve a private life" also as others have pointed out it will fuel the rumours because people will cry that it is all for show. I have said it before I see them doing nothing differently than they have in the last few years. Now both Vanessa and Johnny have both said the rumours are false not sure what people expect them to do but I doubt they will do it. I totally agree with you, nothing more to add. |
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Post by cat on May 13, 2012 22:17:38 GMT 1
They were photographed on the boat 9 months ago. I consider that a long time. Walking with Jack in November was 6 months ago. As far as the concert goes, I don't recall seeing any proof (photos) that they attended together. Did I miss something? I consider 9 and 6 months a long time to not be seen together as a couple, no matter how busy the schedules, especially considering there have been events where it would have been entirely appropriate to attend together. I respect Vanessa and her comment regarding the situation. Same goes for Johnny. It surely must be extremely frustrating that they find themselves having to even comment on their personal lives without giving away too much information that is not anyone's business. I only suggest a photo because , even though true fans do respect, it might be a way to send a message to the rest of the world - i.e. the media. I personally want the rumors to stop, and not contribute to their frustration. Again you are asking people to justify their private lives to people that well frankly don't deserve any respect. You said they have not been seen together or 6 month or 9 months yet if you look back even further you will see similar gaps. There is nothing different now than then not sure why you feel it necessary for them to lay out their private lives for all to see especially the media who on a year in year out cycle of getting married, divorced, expecting another child, having affairs and other BS. If they did start to stage photo ops do you not think they would get equally slammed for doing so ? A picture of them together is not going to stop the rumours it will only fuel them. I am sure every public event could be considered 'appropriate' for them to be seen as a couple however Depp has never been to one of Vanessa's film premiere's to be honest I was shocked to see him at the Chanel event in Cannes and I put it down to Tim Burton and Patti Smith also being there. As for Vanessa she attended the Oscars and I believe the last film premiere of his she attended was Charlie and the Chocolate factory in LA quite a few years ago. Apart from premiere's and fashion events I don't recall any other 'appropriate' events they could have been seen by the media as attending as a couple. |
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Post by bibelot on May 13, 2012 22:19:54 GMT 1
Celebrities appearing together and being photographed is a "Occupational Hazard". There are countless celebrities who appear together and have children at home. They certainly manage to still have a private life AND a public one.
I certainly DID NOT SUGGEST that they had to "put on a show for gossips and bottomfeeders". You are twisting my words, and I do not appreciate it.
The facts remain: it is odd that she is not wearing her ring after years of being photographed wearing it. It is odd that it's been a year+ since they have attended an event together. It is odd that you have a love in your life and are not seen together in 6 months or more. Whether they are separated, together, or whatever, there has been enough "odd" for people to question.
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Post by Lotanx3 on May 13, 2012 22:33:30 GMT 1
Meh, I really don't understand your opinion, bibelot. Both Vanessa AND Johnny denied the rumors firmly, and it's not enough? I really can't imagine them walking on red carpets together or strolling out on streets now, not because of their alleged break-up which appeared to be false, but because that's how it was since ever. They didn't show up much together last year and no one said anything about it. We can't just put ourselves in their shoes and judge them, they are so busy. And it's not different than last year, two years ago, three years ago, etc. About the ring, who knows why she's not wearing it, but their denial is enough for me, anyway.
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Post by Lotanx3 on May 13, 2012 23:25:16 GMT 1
I agree with you Valentina. Therefore, I'm going to stop making comments on this thread. I think I expressed my humble opinion enough times, and I really think it's time to move on. I thought we should move on already when Vanessa confirmed that it's not true, but oh well. Won't make any more posts on this thread.
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Post by leslie on May 14, 2012 1:19:38 GMT 1
I've tried to keep my thoughts on this subject to a minimum, but I did have a few things to say simply because I was late to the discussion. But I'm perfectly content to move on now too. I guess my last thought will be that they don't owe the public anything, when it comes to their personal lives, and certainly not the paparazzi. Moving along ...
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Post by cari on May 14, 2012 5:03:42 GMT 1
I don't think they should be seen together for the "media," but it would be nice if they were seen together because they want to do something together...something they don't seem to have any interest in doing. And Vanessa was not at the Iggy Pop concert.
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Post by jcd on May 14, 2012 7:44:15 GMT 1
I agree valentina and Lotanx3, Leslie.....It's sad that actually some fans of them don't trust in their words. But that affirmed clearly Johnny's statement "...people believe the opposite" and it shows which power tabloids have. All things what was normal in the past become odd now. I repeat myself, you haven't seen them together for longer periods in the past, no matter if on official events or private, and I don't think that they should change their attitude to life now just because the whole world needs a proof for whatever.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 3:15:05 GMT 1
cari,yes Vanessa was at the Iggy Pop concert it was just very dark but you can see her from the back when there all standing around smoking.
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Post by vpdansus on May 15, 2012 4:03:50 GMT 1
Actually, Johnny has never gave an interview to People magazine. I think it's a pretty good bet he never will. Well said by you and I think by Johnny. Bless him and Vanessa for putting up with this ()**(&^&. Enough now... Holly |
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Post by omorfis on May 15, 2012 5:26:33 GMT 1
cari,yes Vanessa was at the Iggy Pop concert it was just very dark but you can see her from the back when there all standing around smoking. Kim, this is not Vanessa!Johnny was onli with his children. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxRxKj_30_U |
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