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Post by Lotanx3 on Aug 13, 2012 19:00:38 GMT 1
It's not about Vanessa but a general reflexion I make for myself : how can you want to fall in love again after such a bad experiment, a wonderful and longtime love which ends so badly ? I guess she's a hopeless romantic? ;D But really, I don't think it was such a 'terrible experience'. Of course I can't know for sure, I'm sure they had many rough times, but she sad many times that she believes in love. Can you explain to me please, what do you mean by saying that tis longtime love ended 'so badly'? I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean, they ended their relationship in a bitter way and everything? Because if so, I don't think they ended it this way, they seem to be very relieved now, I think it really was an amicable split. But perhaps I got your words in a wrong way.  |
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 13, 2012 19:08:24 GMT 1
I mean it's bad to split someone you loved so much and for 14 years. Don't you think it's pretty sad ?
If I was her, I would be so upset and desperate !
Maybe it's me who is too romantic.
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Post by Lotanx3 on Aug 13, 2012 19:16:02 GMT 1
I mean it's bad to split someone you loved so much and for 14 years. Don't you think it's pretty sad ? If I was her, I would be so upset and desperate ! Maybe it's me who is too romantic. No, I agree with you, personally, I was really, really sad about it. I'm a huge fan of both of them and it was very sad to me. It made me really sad to see that they break up after all of the lovely things they said about each other, especially because of what Vanessa said. But, they broke up, and that's it. They're happier this way, and I'm happy for them. But I completely understand you right now, thanks for clearing that up. I feel very much like you, but I am happy for them. |
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 13, 2012 19:21:40 GMT 1
I mean it's bad to split someone you loved so much and for 14 years. Don't you think it's pretty sad ? If I was her, I would be so upset and desperate ! Maybe it's me who is too romantic. No, I agree with you, personally, I was really, really sad about it. I'm a huge fan of both of them and it was very sad to me. It made me really sad to see that they break up after all of the lovely things they said about each other, especially because of what Vanessa said. Maybe I put their love too high for me. I mean they were an ideal, an idyllic couple to me. So I am really sad that beautiful couple broke up as the others... And I don't understand how it has been possible to happen... and I think we are many here not to understand and maybe not accept that is why there are so many hard debates here... |
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Post by Lotanx3 on Aug 13, 2012 19:32:45 GMT 1
I don't think we'll ever know why it happened, we just need to let it go. I understand you, but over-thinking won't change the current situation. They really were perfect and ideal couple, but I guess that even the greatest love story comes to an end. That's just how it is, sometimes, and we need to let it go.  That's how I see it, anyway. Because trying to think and see through the lines won't change it. |
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 13, 2012 19:36:29 GMT 1
I guess that even the greatest love story comes to an end. . That's even more sad !  |
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Post by Lotanx3 on Aug 13, 2012 19:40:47 GMT 1
I guess that even the greatest love story comes to an end. . That's even more sad ! Well that's the sad truth. I'm sorry it made you being even more sad, I do understand your feelings, I was and I'm still very sad about it, but as I said before...that's just how it is and we can't change it. We'll better be happy for Vanessa, no?  |
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Post by pearl on Aug 13, 2012 19:46:08 GMT 1
Just two days before the announcement( interview in harper bazzar) That said, Paradis does have an eye for a specific kind of man. "Well, my type is obviously creative," she says, with a quick smile. "Creative, with burning eyes and a pretty mouth."(I read all) It’s so terrible . does she want to fix her relationship ? she is a mother and talk like a 20 years old girl. I don't see a problem in her words. So what, if she's a mother that means she can't love anyone else except for her ex anymore? I don't understand why people get mad at her because of her words. I see no problem in these words, including the part where she said that if something doesn't work from the beginning you just need to let it go. I think we know she didn't mean that her relationship with Johnny was a nightmare since the beginning, I'm sure they had their ups and downs during these 14 years, just like anyone else. I guess they didn't have enough in common to keep this relationship alive. Actually I'm not angry at her but rather surprised about "if something doesn't work from the beginning you just need to let it go" statement.I'm sure they had ups and downs but if "something" was consistently wrong in the relationship and they kept trying nonetheles for 14 YEARS...just wow! Again maybe it is just a generel statement nothing about her relationship. |
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Post by Lotanx3 on Aug 13, 2012 19:51:09 GMT 1
I don't see a problem in her words. So what, if she's a mother that means she can't love anyone else except for her ex anymore? I don't understand why people get mad at her because of her words. I see no problem in these words, including the part where she said that if something doesn't work from the beginning you just need to let it go. I think we know she didn't mean that her relationship with Johnny was a nightmare since the beginning, I'm sure they had their ups and downs during these 14 years, just like anyone else. I guess they didn't have enough in common to keep this relationship alive. Actually I'm not angry at her but rather surprised about "if something doesn't work from the beginning you just need to let it go" statement.I'm sure they had ups and downs but if "something" was consistently wrong in the relationship and they kept trying nonetheles for 14 YEARS...just wow! Again maybe it is just a generel statement nothing about her relationship. Her words does sound a bit confusing but I do understand what she wanted to say. It is kinda surprising that she said that when something doesn't work you need to let it go, but yeah, perhaps it was just a general statement. Oh well. |
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 13, 2012 19:52:39 GMT 1
Agree ! It must have been something minor if not they would not have stayed together for 14 years !
But I think more her sentence has been excerpted from another context.
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Post by Lotanx3 on Aug 13, 2012 19:53:51 GMT 1
Agree ! It must have been something minor if not they would not have stayed together for 14 years ! But I think more her sentence has been excerpted from another context. I agree. I guesss it was pretty much out of context. |
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Post by kittycat88 on Aug 13, 2012 20:51:37 GMT 1
Regarding her comment on something not working from the beginning...I have all along felt the problem with the relationship was the traveling. Vanessa agreed to let the kids live where their friends were, which is a good decision. The problem, I believe, was that Vanessa had always figured that after a few years they would return to France. That never worked out for her. I think she tried to work on accepting the arrangement, but with Johnny's crazier and crazier schedule, she realized her dream of returning to France as a family would not work. There may have been a specific breaking point...but over all I believe she is just disappointed she could not take living in LA for long periods. She missed Paris and France too much.
Not sure if anyone agrees, or maybe I have it wrong. Just my opinion.
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Post by Lotanx3 on Aug 13, 2012 21:03:42 GMT 1
Regarding her comment on something not working from the beginning...I have all along felt the problem with the relationship was the traveling. Vanessa agreed to let the kids live where their friends were, which is a good decision. The problem, I believe, was that Vanessa had always figured that after a few years they would return to France. That never worked out for her. I think she tried to work on accepting the arrangement, but with Johnny's crazier and crazier schedule, she realized her dream of returning to France as a family would not work. There may have been a specific breaking point...but over all I believe she is just disappointed she could not take living in LA for long periods. She missed Paris and France too much. Not sure if anyone agrees, or maybe I have it wrong. Just my opinion. I do agree with you Kitty. |
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Post by ludi76 on Aug 13, 2012 21:05:09 GMT 1
Actually we can't know...
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Post by Emilie-Jolie on Aug 13, 2012 21:42:25 GMT 1
Here is some coverage from People magazine www.people.com/people/article/0,,20620480,00.html My two cents, (and I was under the illusion that this was THE perfect relationship until November) is that love is only one ingredient in the making of a successful relationship. Especially when children, two extremely high-pressure/successful careers and family/friends on two different continents are involved. I have no doubt that the love was always there, but maybe the other issues proved insurmountable in the end. Its sad but even though it ended that reltionship was also probably the best thing they ever did, so no regrets |
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Post by Lotanx3 on Aug 13, 2012 21:52:35 GMT 1
Actually we can't know... Of course, but this is just an opinion. |
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Post by Lotanx3 on Aug 13, 2012 21:55:59 GMT 1
Here is some coverage from People magazine www.people.com/people/article/0,,20620480,00.html My two cents, (and I was under the illusion that this was THE perfect relationship until November) is that love is only one ingredient in the making of a successful relationship. Especially when children, two extremely high-pressure/successful careers and family/friends on two different continents are involved. I have no doubt that the love was always there, but maybe the other issues proved insurmountable in the end. Its sad but even though it ended that reltionship was also probably the best thing they ever did, so no regrets Yup. Sometimes a relationship requires more than just love. And when it doesn't work, it just doesn't work and that's it. It's hard to maintain a relationship in the conditions Johnny and Vanessa live in, as much as their lives are very glamorous and people would do a lot to live this kind of life, it is difficult to maintain relationships this way. It's good to see and know that they're pleased with their choice and that they're happy. |
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Post by cat on Aug 13, 2012 22:10:27 GMT 1
Here is some coverage from People magazine www.people.com/people/article/0,,20620480,00.html My two cents, (and I was under the illusion that this was THE perfect relationship until November) is that love is only one ingredient in the making of a successful relationship. Especially when children, two extremely high-pressure/successful careers and family/friends on two different continents are involved. I have no doubt that the love was always there, but maybe the other issues proved insurmountable in the end. Its sad but even though it ended that reltionship was also probably the best thing they ever did, so no regrets Yup. Sometimes a relationship requires more than just love. And when it doesn't work, it just doesn't work and that's it. It's hard to maintain a relationship in the conditions Johnny and Vanessa live in, as much as their lives are very glamorous and people would do a lot to live this kind of life, it is difficult to maintain relationships this way. It's good to see and know that they're pleased with their choice and that they're happy.  Anything that got them to that decision is their business clearly it is the right one for them. I wish them both happiness regardless of how they find it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 22:48:07 GMT 1
but nobody knows when the Harper's Bazaar issue with Vanessa comes out?
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Post by avi on Aug 14, 2012 5:52:57 GMT 1
To me the comment about what "doesn't work from the beginning" sounds really normal...all the couples have their difference, but at first (with love and passion) it appears that you can tolerate everything...but the differences remain there...with the time, the problems of the every day, monotony, boredom, etc, even those "little" details that bother you from the beginning but you did tolerate, becomes in huge problems and sometimes in resentments and all...but that's normal in couples, especially when they were together for so many years!  The comment about her "type of man" is normal too...also appears as she was describing some notorious features of the same Johnny (she only omitted the cheekbones requisite...but I think it's enough with hers ;D) as some media joked "she's hunting for a Johnny Depp lookalike" Great pictures...love the photoshoot  And so many thanks to Nonours for the translation! I'm so proud of her... she's more mature than all those tabloids trying to find "scandals" here... more balanced than all those haters trying to blame any of them...and she's handling it better than most of her fans here! ;D...
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That's how I see it, anyway. Because trying to think and see through the lines won't change it.
