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Post by Emilie-Jolie on Nov 19, 2012 16:47:38 GMT 1
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Post by avi on Nov 19, 2012 17:50:25 GMT 1
I knew it too! It's mentioned in some Kate's bios, almost as long rivalry symbols between them (even if I don't know if Vanessa is mindful of that "rivalry" or not ;D ) Anyway, for what I understand they know each other  remember that Vanessa says she "met" Johnny several times at differents dinners/partys before they really "met" in Paris? well according to unauthorized biographies, Kate was there too |
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Post by blackwidow on Nov 19, 2012 18:10:01 GMT 1
Vanessa could have been a supermodel (asides she is very petite) if she wanted but she didnt want to, why did she said no to calvin klein? wasnt she doing something I cant remember, Avi Kate and Vanessa never met that's what Vanessa said.
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Post by avi on Nov 19, 2012 18:32:53 GMT 1
Good if you're sure!  I was just saying what an "unanthorized" Kate's bio said...and that's why I mentioned it. I know Vanessa doesn't talk about her, so I can't remember Vanessa refering to her at all ...and they move in the same "environment" for years (modeling, fashion shows, photographers, NY, Lenny) so it's difficult believe that they didn't crossed paths at all About the CK, again according to Kate's bios the problem with Vanessa is that CK wanted her after the Chanel spot, because she was a "refreshing face" in the modeling. But the CK promo were very "bold" and different to what she was doing with Chanel. So she didn't want to "go so away" off Chanel radar (and it worked, we know it!  ) Bye! |
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Post by blackwidow on Nov 19, 2012 19:17:40 GMT 1
Avi you can easily find the interview in Johnnydeppfan in the section of Vanessa  , I didnt know that is Mark Wahlberg! he looks so different photoshop maybe? I remember in his youth he didnt look so different than now. |
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Post by cari on Nov 19, 2012 19:25:20 GMT 1
Well, they were pushing it, with Kate, as she was only 5'7", which is short for a runway model. They usually want them to be at least 5'10". No way could Vanessa have made it on the runway...way too short. Kate was just very unique and she's lasted as a top model longer than almost any of them. I just read her Vanity Fair interview, and she's a very interesting girl. In looking through some of my old magazines, I ran across something that was kind of funny. They did a piece on young, upcoming models. This was ages ago. On one page, was a pic of a very young Kate Moss, on the back of the page was a pic of Vanessa. Back to back. This was before he was involved with either of them. Kate's face hasn't changed all that much, but Vanessa was very different...she had the round baby face, much changed from today.
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Post by blackwidow on Nov 19, 2012 20:40:10 GMT 1
Yeah and Vanessa has said various times she never wanted to be a model, personally I don't find Kate Moss interesting or beautiful by any means not even when she was young and her face wasn't so weird. Even before being a fan of Vanessa she caught my attention quickly with round face or high cheeks (I prefer her with high cheeks),she was and is so beautiful in a special way her face isn't perfect neither are her teeth, however I find her to be very beautiful breaking the standards of beauty, you know big lips like Angelina Jolie or Monica Belluci or having breasts and the bombshell look of Scarlett Johansson or the smile and perfect beauty of Charlíze Theron, her beauty is completely out of standards her class and style completes her whole appeareance and yeah she changed from the gorgeous lolita days with her face full of makeup and pouty lips, but I prefer her with sharp features (just my personal likes, I don't like round/moon faces, I like more faces with distinctive bone structure and fem just like Vanessa since 1997 and beyond)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 21:30:48 GMT 1
Kate Moss might be one of the biggest supermodels and all but I don't like her in the slighest nor as a model or as a beauty, I love skinny models with quirky beauties like Georgia May Jagger or the blonde mermaid in POTC4 or the gorgeous Natalia Vodianova Lara Stone and a lot more but Kate is just a no no, even in the airbrushed pics for magazine spreads, She was truly blessed to be in the league of supermodels of the 90's these women with curvaceous bodies and gorgeous faces such as Helena Christensen, Carla Bruni, Claudia Schiffer, Cindy Crawford among others, Kate wasn't pretty neither had a pretty body but she was lucky and became very famous and she made trendy the skinny models, you can say Kate Moss made the era of "skinny models " the era we are in today, that's something important...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 7:03:13 GMT 1
I heard this a few years ago,how cool!!!Thanks
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Post by Emilie-Jolie on Nov 20, 2012 23:16:44 GMT 1
Not meaning to go off-topic but I always wondered - was Johnny still supposed to be seeing Kate when he met Vanessa in Paris & they began seeing each other?
I guess Johnny Depp & Calvin Klein have similar taste!
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Post by cari on Nov 21, 2012 1:29:18 GMT 1
He had already broke up with Kate, when he met Vanessa. He met up with Kate, the end of May, in Cannes, for the premiere of Fear and Loathing but he mentioned that Kate just wanted to see the film with him, that they weren't still together. A few days after Cannes, he left for France, to work on the Roman Polanski film, which is where he met Vanessa.
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Post by Emilie-Jolie on Nov 21, 2012 1:59:33 GMT 1
Thanks Cari, I always wondered, I suppose the short space of time between the public appearance with Kate and then being lovestruck by Vanessa shortly after is why people got it confused.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 18:02:18 GMT 1
He had already broke up with Kate, when he met Vanessa. He met up with Kate, the end of May, in Cannes, for the premiere of Fear and Loathing but he mentioned that Kate just wanted to see the film with him, that they weren't still together. A few days after Cannes, he left for France, to work on the Roman Polanski film, which is where he met Vanessa. And Vanessa auditioned for the female role in the ninth gate but Polanski's (also french) wife got the role, so I guess that's why they were in the same place. |
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Post by Aline on Nov 21, 2012 18:16:45 GMT 1
He had already broke up with Kate, when he met Vanessa. He met up with Kate, the end of May, in Cannes, for the premiere of Fear and Loathing but he mentioned that Kate just wanted to see the film with him, that they weren't still together. A few days after Cannes, he left for France, to work on the Roman Polanski film, which is where he met Vanessa. And Vanessa auditioned for the female role in the ninth gate but Polanski's (also french) wife got the role, so I guess that's why they were in the same place. Never heard of that  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 19:58:35 GMT 1
And Vanessa auditioned for the female role in the ninth gate but Polanski's (also french) wife got the role, so I guess that's why they were in the same place. Never heard of that Yeah it's mentioned in some of the first interviews after they got together (mentioned by the interviewer) |
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Post by cari on Nov 21, 2012 20:28:01 GMT 1
I remember reading that, now. I had forgotten that Vanessa auditioned for the Ninth Gate role. It would have awesome if she had got it...imagine their chemistry!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 20:53:10 GMT 1
I remember reading that, now. I had forgotten that Vanessa auditioned for the Ninth Gate role. It would have awesome if she had got it...imagine their chemistry! Agree the chemistry would be amazing! it sucks that all this years we never had the chance to see them together in the big screen ! (they tried once but the movie had a lot of troubles shooting and it got cancelled), but Polanski made a good decision chosing his wife for the role I can't see Vanessa playing lucifer! at all lol. |
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Post by paradiseeden on Jan 3, 2013 20:21:59 GMT 1
Not meaning to go off-topic but I always wondered - was Johnny still supposed to be seeing Kate when he met Vanessa in Paris & they began seeing each other? I guess Johnny Depp & Calvin Klein have similar taste! I have some biographies and they say Johnny Depp had a meeting with Kate Moss in January 1999 in London.He was filming "Sleepy Hollow" there and Kate had just released from a hospital or center because she had problems the year before( it is said Kate never accepted the fact Johnny had a baby with other woman and he settled down,maybe she tought he would go back to her or simply they would go back together again but Johnny was in love with Vanessa and expecting a baby and according to some people that broke Kate and she had to go to a clinic)and she was hospitalized in some place. Some journalists started rumours and gossips saying Johnny still loved Kate but apparently he only met her again to support her ,not love involved, just as a friend because she had recently left the hospital/center,whatever,and he showed there to give her some support.Recently Kate told how Johnny was the only one who helped her and how she had missed that support when they broke up,so it makes sense he went to see her to support her after an awful year and the clinic. Later rumours about an affair between Christina Ricci and Johnny started too,but there were lots of pics of Johnny with Vanessa,and nobody believed he was after Kate again,he was happy with Vanessa and was living a new life. Years later he deffended Kate when she was pictured with cocaine, but I have no idea if he has seen her again . And I agree,I dont find Kate beautiful either,I think Vanessa is really pretty,she would have been perfect for CK.Her faces are totally different,and while I find Kate even "ugly" I think Vanessa is just beautiful.Her face so refined,kind of a cat,with those big green eyes,her cheekbones,her lips..perfect model. |
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Post by blackwidow on Jan 4, 2013 19:37:58 GMT 1
The problem is that Johnny doesn't announce his splits or he takes too much time to announce it , and then it looks like he either cheated or left one woman for another and when he starts a relationship he doesn't announce it neither, he is either spotted by the paps. with the new woman or he makes a public app. with her, I am not saying that stuff it's true but doing that is why people say such things, the same rumors that happened with Vanessa and Kate happened again with Vanessa and you know who *cough cough* , and he just never learns... I hope that next time on another relationship he learns the lesson once for all, I mean, for his own image/reputation sake and for the woman that is with him doesn't look like a 'homewrecker' he hates rumors but he does it all in the complicated way that feed the rumors...
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Post by cari on Jan 4, 2013 21:21:33 GMT 1
I don't think he is obligated to announce changes in his personal life, to anyone. But, the break=up with Kate had been publicised. He did a very widely published interview when he was promoting Fear and Loathing, where he spoke about his split with Kate. I don't think he really cares what people who depend on tabloids for their news, think of him.
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remember that Vanessa says she "met" Johnny several times at differents dinners/partys before they really "met" in Paris? well according to unauthorized biographies, Kate was there too
I was just saying what an "unanthorized" Kate's bio said...and that's why I mentioned it. 
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, I didnt know that is Mark Wahlberg! he looks so different photoshop maybe? I remember in his youth he didnt look so different than now.
