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Post by justintime on Jul 14, 2012 5:14:15 GMT 1
Frankly, I don't understand the selective application of the phrase " . . . excuse for cheating" being tossed about here. It seems Johnny and Vanessa have been living separate lives, on separate continents, for almost two years. Anyone following either or both of them would have to acknowledge the possibility of truth in this presumption. How long must they, then, remain celibate to satisfy the myriad of holier than thou critics out there? Vanessa has been making movies for the last four years, has held numerous concerts- some even here in the US, where her popularity has blossomed, with critical success - performed with other artists (some - gasp - male!), and been publicly commended for her efforts. The opportunities for either of them to find solace, comfort, companionship, whatever, as the circumstances evolved have been proliferate. How does indulgence on either side morph into "cheating"? I don't think we have any right to comment, much less pass judgement, on anyone. No wonder Vanessa and Johnny have been silent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 5:20:45 GMT 1
i don't think they were completely separated 2 years ago, it doesn't make sense in 2011 they were seen several times together (in 2010 too) the yatch pics of august last year kissing and stuff, looks like it was the last try but it didn't worked i think they were on and off during 2011 and it finished over the end of last year were she removed the ring (in november i think), as for cheating we will never know but like many people I think there was cheating too i wouldn't like to make more fire here but its such an amazing coincidence that at the time he started promoting the rum diary vanessa took off the ring (meaning that the relationship was over definitely) and in august they looked so happy and all it's just too suspicious, but whatever now it's over so who cares.. i just sincerely want media to stop writing nasty things about vanessa it's just disgusting and the worst they publish it as facts!!
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Post by cari on Jul 14, 2012 5:38:46 GMT 1
This is getting sillier and sillier. This thread would be right at home in The National Enquirer. It is all speculation. People saw the leg of a woman getting in a car and all of a sudden it's PROOF of an affair. Good lord. Take heart, though, after a few months the press will leave Vanessa alone. She is known in the states only as Johnny's girlfriend. She will be able to persue her career and personal life with only the French press to worry about. Why can't we just hope for a good life for both of them, and leave the unverified gossip to such places as TMZ.
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Post by omorfis on Jul 14, 2012 6:51:06 GMT 1
I agree with you valentina!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 7:39:36 GMT 1
Cari I hope you are right on that, that the us media will forget about Vanessa once for all now that she is not with their Johnny anymore, I always thought they will leave her alone after that but I see not, also imagine after Johnny appears with this Heard girl or whoever he is dating we will have stories again of 'Vanessa is devastated' 'Vanessa is furious' 'Vanessa threatened her' and all that crap stuff, media is giving her a total jennifer aniston treatment, I don't want Vanessa turning into a Jennifer Aniston, look at what they done to her always the hurted always the unhappy always the resented with Angelina always I'll take you back brad even when she looks happy with her boyfriend.. so i really hope eventually they will stop doing this to Vanessa and forget about her completely, luckily she is not well known in the US that's a good thing.. it's very tiring and she doesn't deserve it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 8:52:01 GMT 1
^I hope it don't turn into that also and the trash media here in the US will leave her alone and Johnny too but don't look like that's gonna happen anytime soon,sadly.
I'm beginning to think that they let their career's drive them apart,i hope not because it would seem to me that they choose career over their love for each other and their family together.
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Post by bibelot on Jul 14, 2012 15:38:40 GMT 1
^I hope it don't turn into that also and the trash media here in the US will leave her alone and Johnny too but don't look like that's gonna happen anytime soon,sadly. I'm beginning to think that they let their career's drive them apart,i hope not because it would seem to me that they choose career over their love for each other and their family together. Which makes them like millions of other couples who struggle to find the balance between facing the demands of 2 careers, making money for their family, and finding both quality time and quantity time with their family. Theirs was on an infinitely grander scale: more people to answer to, more employees to pay and keep in jobs and more properties to take care of. It must have been overwhelming. |
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Post by Emilie-Jolie on Jul 14, 2012 17:23:42 GMT 1
Justintime as Valentina said, we have seen pictures of Johnny & Vanessa looking as happy as they ever did from last August. She removed her ring in November, that's a relative short time-span within which to end such a serious relationship, they certainly haven't been split for the last 2 years That's just another stupid tabloid rumor stemming solely from the fact that that was the last time they appeared together at an event.
Cari that was a photo taken by a fan of Johnny's and the woman's clothing has been matched to something Amber has been seen wearing, I don't think that's too tenuous a link. What's more unlikely would be a woman of the same build, wearing the same handbag Amber has happening to be getting into JD's car. That's not to say that a sighting of them together is proof of a relationship between them but fan's of Vanessa's are bound to speculate about whether he has begun another relationship. If he has that's fine but I just hope that for Vanessa's sake it wasn't while she believed they were still together.
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Post by bibelot on Jul 14, 2012 19:47:06 GMT 1
There is a school of thought that those photos from last August were staged for the paparazzi. That is was all a ruse to feed the paparazzi happy and keep them off their tales.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 20:51:52 GMT 1
staged? no i don't think so if they wanted to stage/fake happiness to impress people they would never stop going to events, i believe these yatch pics were the last 'try' to fix things but it didn't work remember his rep said they tried to save the relationship and seeing these yatch pics in august last year it totally looks like they were trying to work things out but like many couples they couldn't, at least they tried, that's something we don't see in hollywood often
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 23:22:30 GMT 1
^Agree i don't think there staged either just one of the ups times in their relationship.
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Post by cari on Jul 15, 2012 0:54:59 GMT 1
Someone said the bag the girl was carrying, was similar to one that Amber had, but I don't think any matching clothing was involved. When I saw the picture, I heard the speculation that it might be Amber, but personally I didn't think so. Her hair was darker and she appeared to be an older woman than Amber. I have no idea, though...I'm as curious any anyone else. Even though he's filming in various states, away from the public glare, you would think if she wss anywhere close, she'd be photographed by someone. A photograph that actually shows her face. She seems to be hanging out in L.A. with her friend. What I'd love to know, is if Johnny and Vanessa are, in anyway, in contact with each other, and hoping it's a friendly separation. Since Van and Johnny both very seldom speak of personal things, to the press...we may never know more than we do now. I just want them both to be happy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2012 2:29:23 GMT 1
I'd rather to believe they remain as friends at least for the children I think they are mature enough to do that, also it's obvious seeing these yatch pics of august last year that they were trying to work it out but they couldn't (just like his rep said) and maybe then they decided to finish it (both) left each other his rep said they split was amicable sounds like they decided to finish it and ended in good terms, I'd rather to believe in his rep more than in the tabloids even if Johnny actually had a fling with heard (let's say followed after the break up) that's another subject but yes it is very inmature and a bad move coming from a person like Johnny to had a fling with a once or still lesbian young girl (I can't even imagine the embarrassment his children might be going trough for that) but Johnny is not at his best time not even professionally it's easy to see that he is going through that so called mid-life crisis, going after heard is just another symptom of his mid life crisis, but don't jump on me because of this I just said, I am not judging him I am just saying, I think he will be ok and find a good woman more of his age to be with in a serious relationship (like he always did) after he realises his age all eventually after his mid-life crisis is over, I can't blame him I guess being close to 50 is the end of your youth and you are middle aged you don't look the same anymore and stuff and that's not so easy to accept specially for men sadly middle age crisis happens to most of men and clearly Johnny is not the exception..
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Post by cat on Jul 15, 2012 2:47:39 GMT 1
LOL for someone that claims you are not judging you sure are sounding like you are!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2012 3:37:01 GMT 1
LOL for someone that claims you are not judging you sure are sounding like you are! really?, i tried to be the less judging as possible, I don't think I was in fact I put myself on his place/feet and said 'I can't blame him' but.. well seems like everything people say about johnny in this thread is judging hateful and offensive, I am trying to be fair and not blind eyed, If Vanessa were hooking up with a full gay guy of 25 partying with rockstars weirdly dressing like a hippy/rockstar doing weird movies and interviews I promise I will say the same thing about her too, I am just saying what I see some people would agree others not, just that, no big deal or offensive attempts, again I am sorry to have my own opinion and differ of the wagon that Johnny is absolutely walking perfection and that he can't make mistakes and bad moves |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2012 4:12:08 GMT 1
^Same here!He's not perfect people he's human and valentina was just saying just that.
I too hope they are on friendly terms for kids sake and i would like to think they will atleast remain friends.
I do still think that was Amber getting in the back of his SUV and maybe they are just friends but still it don't look right when he just had announced the break up from Vanessa.
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Post by cat on Jul 15, 2012 11:07:01 GMT 1
LOL for someone that claims you are not judging you sure are sounding like you are! really?, i tried to be the less judging as possible, I don't think I was in fact I put myself on his place/feet and said 'I can't blame him' but.. well seems like everything people say about johnny in this thread is judging hateful and offensive, I am trying to be fair and not blind eyed, If Vanessa were hooking up with a full gay guy of 25 partying with rockstars weirdly dressing like a hippy/rockstar doing weird movies and interviews I promise I will say the same thing about her too, I am just saying what I see some people would agree others not, just that, no big deal or offensive attempts, again I am sorry to have my own opinion and differ of the wagon that Johnny is absolutely walking perfection and that he can't make mistakes and bad moves Like every other human being, and that does include Vanessa, Johnny is not perfect, he makes mistakes, makes bad moves. He has always associated with rockstars, he has always been associated with weird movies, his dress has always been questionable, he has always had gay friends. Still trying to figure out where the mid life crisis comes into play. Although since not one person knows, nor will likely know, the reason for their break up I think I will reserve judging,blaming or calling out one over the other on their perceived behaviour it is all just starting to read like some kind of tabloid trashy wet dream. |
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Post by Emilie-Jolie on Jul 15, 2012 11:24:34 GMT 1
Yes as we've all said before, the only thing we can be certain of is that we are certain about nothing in this situation, except that they split up. I think that is the reason everyone speculates, because its hard to understand how a couple who were SO intensely in love and so committed to each other and their family, suddenly decide to split.
Personally I have a hard time accepting they simply grew apart, because of work commitments or whatever. Vanessa has managed to release 3 albums since they've been together and has made quite a number off movies, despite what the US tabloids would like people to believe, her career never stopped, although it did slow down while her kids were very little. I just don't believe that they would have split over something as relatively workable as 'growing apart' or 'work commitments', for me that doesn't fit with either of their characters as two people so committed to each other and their children.
So that is why when people throw around other options I find it revealing, I'm still hoping to understand why the couple who used to define what love looked like, are no more. Even though I know we'll never know for sure.
So hopefully you can understand I don't want to be part of a 'tabloid trashy wet dream', just trying to eek out some explanation as to why the couple we have all followed for so many years has ended, even though I know as well as anyone we will never have confirmation of anything.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2012 11:41:25 GMT 1
^Agree!!! Like every other human being, and that does include Vanessa, Johnny is not perfect, he makes mistakes, makes bad moves. He has always associated with rockstars, he has always been associated with weird movies, his dress has always been questionable, he has always had gay friends. Very true. |
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Post by pearl on Jul 15, 2012 12:52:50 GMT 1
Valentina; if you use full stop (.) at the end of a sentence when you're writing a message I would appreciate it. (Sorry for going off-topic)
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