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Post by Lotanx3 on Jun 29, 2012 23:00:22 GMT 1
cari, personally, i do not believe ANYTHING tabloids say. But, I just hope that their kids won't hear anything about these ridiculous stories. Even though they're not true, it isn't fun to hear such things.
I think that tabloids should be trashed in the toilet too, they are no good, for anyone. It's just another evil way to make money.
Sigh, I just wish both Johnny and Vanessa and their kids much happiness, they doesn't deserve all of the crap they get from tabloids.
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Post by royaltenenbaum on Jun 29, 2012 23:02:29 GMT 1
So you think Disney is fine with all this stuff floating around? Of course I think they are fine with it. Johnny wouldn't have gotten the gig in the first place if they weren't "fine" with it. He was no saint when they decided to cast him as Captain Jack. Their star also had 2 kids "out of wedlock" as they used to say, and it didn't stop them from making billions off of him. What do they care that he and his girl broke up and he plays a gig or 2 on the side? What do they care that he has a rowdy night out on the town once in awhile? You think they haven't seen or heard worse? Business is business and I'm pretty sure that Disney hasn't broken a sweat over anything Johnny since his very first audition with them. And that was only because Johnny auditioned as a bit of a swishy, rock 'n roll pirate. Disney was reticent to make Long Ranger even before Johnny's problems. Now the budget is reportedly exploding, and they're weeks behind schedule. With all that in mind, you still think Disney has no problem with the movie's main draw being accused of repeated adultery, boozing and hooking up with a bisexual starlet nearly half his age? As for Johnny being hired for Pirates, he had been leading a quiet family life for 5 years off screen before getting that job. The character itself was a risky and a brave choice by both Johnny and Disney, but without his domesticity, I doubt he gets that job. While Johnny has more leverage now, Disney has all new leadership, who have no loyalty to him. If they don't think he is producing or has become a liability, they'll drop him(I actually hope he leaves Disney after this movie), especially now that Robert Downey Jr has become a bankable star for them. Nevertheless, I don't think you have to be a Disney exec to know they have no desire to see their most high profile star getting that type of press. |
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Post by Emilie-Jolie on Jun 30, 2012 0:14:53 GMT 1
Johnny is in Moab, Utah, preparing for almost 2 months of filming in a very hot climate. I believe the kids are with him. Actually apparently Johnny has been spotted all over Dublin today, weird?? It was trending on Twitter today, only sad I wasn't there to catch him, could have asked him to clear everything up  The people commenting on this site claim to have seen him personally entertainment.ie/celebrity-gossip/Johnny-Depp-in-Dublin/129149.htm |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2012 1:33:21 GMT 1
anyway I doubt he will tell something to his fans ..
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Post by MarieClaire on Jun 30, 2012 10:18:39 GMT 1
Johnny is in Moab, Utah, preparing for almost 2 months of filming in a very hot climate. I believe the kids are with him. Actually apparently Johnny has been spotted all over Dublin today, weird?? It was trending on Twitter today, only sad I wasn't there to catch him, could have asked him to clear everything up The people commenting on this site claim to have seen him personally entertainment.ie/celebrity-gossip/Johnny-Depp-in-Dublin/129149.htmOooh, home for the weekend but I'll be heading back up tomorrow eve. Must keep my eyes peeled! |
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Post by bibelot on Jun 30, 2012 18:54:37 GMT 1
Royal wrties (yet again): "With all that in mind, you still think Disney has no problem with the movie's main draw being accused of repeated adultery, boozing and hooking up with a bisexual starlet nearly half his age?"
Honestly, Royal, your digs at Johnny are getting quite tiresome. You've made yourself very clear how you feel about him and you don't have to keep repeating yourself ( with 7 or more posts stating the same judgemental comments about Johnny over and over).
This is a Vanessa site, and I've rarely heard you even mention her. Personally, I think it is extemely disprespectful of you to keep dissing the father of Vanessa's children (all of which is based on information that the tabloids have slung out there) , yet you continue to do it and seem to be making a game of it.
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Post by merlin on Jun 30, 2012 20:54:35 GMT 1
;)Thank you bibelot, well said. Unless some of us are actually living with Johnny or Vanessa, we really don't know anything for certain what goes on in their private lives. And I find it absurd and a little offensive that some make comments like they know exactly what is going on between them. I love them both, I so wanted them to beat the odds, but it didn't happen. It is very sad, especially seeing them trashed in the public eye. I only wish them both all the best in the coming future. And I will be a fan of them both for always. ;D
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Post by Lotanx3 on Jun 30, 2012 21:01:37 GMT 1
;)Thank you bibelot, well said. Unless some of us are actually living with Johnny or Vanessa, we really don't know anything for certain what goes on in their private lives. And I find it absurd and a little offensive that some make comments like they know exactly what is going on between them. I love them both, I so wanted them to beat the odds, but it didn't happen. It is very sad, especially seeing them trashed in the public eye. I only wish them both all the best in the coming future. And I will be a fan of them both for always. ;D EXACTLY what I think!   |
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Post by cat on Jun 30, 2012 21:06:09 GMT 1
As a fan of both Vanessa and Johnny regardless of their relationship. I am also sick and tired of the amount of bitchy and snide remarks/judgement being thrown in his direction based on nothing more than tabloid press.
I would hate to have to leave this site but leave I shall if it continues. I come on hear to read news and information, and yes even rumours but some people are just sinking into bottomfeeder territory and I hate having to wade through that crappola.
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Post by royaltenenbaum on Jun 30, 2012 21:07:42 GMT 1
Royal wrties (yet again): "With all that in mind, you still think Disney has no problem with the movie's main draw being accused of repeated adultery, boozing and hooking up with a bisexual starlet nearly half his age?" Honestly, Royal, your digs at Johnny are getting quite tiresome. You've made yourself very clear how you feel about him and you don't have to keep repeating yourself ( with 7 or more posts stating the same judgemental comments about Johnny over and over). This is a Vanessa site, and I've rarely heard you even mention her. Personally, I think it is extemely disprespectful of you to keep dissing the father of Vanessa's children (all of which is based on information that the tabloids have slung out there) , yet you continue to do it and seem to be making a game of it. You using their kids to deflect any criticism is more offensive than anything said on this thread. They aren't your pawn to wield whenever you want to censor/regulate speech. As I said earlier in the thread, these sort of conversations invariably devolve into a competition for best fan and/or a referendum on fan behavior. There are always fans who think there should be nothing but mindless adoration, and any criticism, however mild, is forbidden. It's a lot like people mistaking nationalism for patriotism. Not that it ultimately matters, but I'd wager I've been a fan of Johnny a lot longer than you. I idolized him as a kid, and have followed him since early in his movie career. I was thrilled to see him settle down with Vanessa after years of relatively short relationships interspersed with dark, self-destructive periods. He seemed to turn a corner, and his career really flourished, while still maintaining artistic independence. As a fan, the last couple of years have been troubling/worrying. I don't know if the crumbling of his relationship with Vanessa is the cause of his problems or the result of his problems, but it's pretty obvious Johnny was having problems. Everything(drinking, tattoos, women(allegedly), weight gain, etc.) was turned up to 11. It was escapism, and had all the symptoms of unhappiness. His work suffered. Some of his movie choices were inexplicable. (I should say Johnny looks much better lately). That stuff happened. You seem to think it shouldn't be discussed. I disagree, and it doesn't make me a worse fan for it. As for Vanessa, I wouldn't have known her from Adam if not for being in a relationship with Johnny. Honestly, I doubt I'll follow her career closely now that she isn't with him anymore. I hope she finds personal happiness and continued professional success, and her relationship with Johnny improves going forward, if for no other reason than their kids' well being. But I've never had the same affinity for her work that I have for Johnny's. |
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Post by bibelot on Jun 30, 2012 21:19:49 GMT 1
Make that 8+ and counting.....
To suggest that I am using the children as "pawns" is nothing short of absurd and quite frankly it's insulting to me and more importantly to them and to their mother. They are the innocents in all of this nonsense and it is you who are ignoring them in your diatribes against their father. If you are not a fan of Vanessa or her work, then this is not the place for to come and spew your personal opinions on the man that she chose to spend a good part of her life with and have children with.
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Post by Lotanx3 on Jun 30, 2012 21:23:17 GMT 1
Make that 8+ and counting..... To suggest that I am using the children as "pawns" is nothing short of absurd and quite frankly it's insulting to me and more importantly to them and to their mother. They are the innocents in all of this nonsense and it is you who are ignoring them in your diatribes against their father. If you are not a fan of Vanessa or her work, then this is not the place for to come and spew your personal opinions on the man that she chose to spend a good part of her life with and have children with. Agree. I honestly don't understand why would a person who's not actually interested in Vanessa beyond her love-life make comments on a site which is dedicated mainly to her career. |
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Post by royaltenenbaum on Jun 30, 2012 21:29:14 GMT 1
Make that 8+ and counting..... To suggest that I am using the children as "pawns" is nothing short of absurd and quite frankly it's insulting to me and more importantly to them and to their mother. They are the innocents in all of this nonsense and it is you who are ignoring them in your diatribes against their father. If you are not a fan of Vanessa or her work, then this is not the place for to come and spew your personal opinions on the man that she chose to spend a good part of her life with and have children with. You blatantly use(d) their children, who will never see this message board nor be affected by it, as a rationalization for controlling speech. You want people to adhere to your definition of being a fan, which means no criticisms of any kind. It takes an astounding level of arrogance and/or delusion to believe you are the arbiter of fan behavior. |
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Post by Aline on Jun 30, 2012 21:50:49 GMT 1
Honestly, I doubt I'll follow her career closely now that she isn't with him anymore. I hope she finds personal happiness and continued professional success, and her relationship with Johnny improves going forward, if for no other reason than their kids' well being. But I've never had the same affinity for her work that I have for Johnny's. Sorry but if you won't follow her career just because she isn't with Johnny anymore, so why are you posting here? I can't understand it.  |
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Post by royaltenenbaum on Jun 30, 2012 22:01:30 GMT 1
Honestly, I doubt I'll follow her career closely now that she isn't with him anymore. I hope she finds personal happiness and continued professional success, and her relationship with Johnny improves going forward, if for no other reason than their kids' well being. But I've never had the same affinity for her work that I have for Johnny's. Sorry but if you won't follow her career just because she isn't with Johnny anymore, so why are you posting here? I can't understand it. I said I wouldn't follow it closely. I'll still occasionally lurk here and at VP.net, as I have for years, just to keep up with Vanessa. |
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Post by jcd on Jun 30, 2012 22:46:04 GMT 1
I'm really honest...I'm more with Johnny's than Vanessa, but I'll always be deeply grateful to her, that he found her in a time where he urgently needed help to handle his life. She gave him the reason to live, saved him from drifting into the ultimate abyss. And I bet it wasn't always easy to be with him together. She deserves my respect! That's why I'm here...
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Post by Serendipity on Jun 30, 2012 23:17:00 GMT 1
The funny and sad thing is that the fans are probably getting more bitter and defensive toward each other than Johnny and Vanessa are.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2012 23:40:47 GMT 1
The funny and sad thing is that the fans are probably getting more bitter and defensive toward each other than Johnny and Vanessa are. Agree  And i agree if you're not a fan don't come just to trash Johnny go to a fansite for him and do that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2012 0:26:33 GMT 1
I used to be a huge fan of Johnny before (like 2 years ago) but he has changed a lot mainly because his work is totally forgettable and not half as great as it used to be and stuff (hope people won't be bitter towards me because of that last thing I said because there's a thing called free speech and I am not being disrespectful towards him in any way just my personal opinion and many people would agree with that).. what I see is that here people seem to be more interested in what's going on with him or people get rough easily when someone 'indirectly' makes a not favorable statement of him, but when people directly blamed Vanessa SEVERAL TIMES on this thread for his 'behavior' and bad choice in movies/sinking career nobody said anything that is quite disrespectful to me, and the fact that people here are more interested in him and rumors of him, since this is a forum of Vanessa, Johnny has been a very important person in Vanessa's life sure he is the father of her children but that doesn't mean this is a fan forum of him that we have to discuss him (here) and what's going on in his life or where he was seen for the last time or where he is living , also if you see the forums of Johnny they barely mention her  we should do the same, my humble and sincere opinion |
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Post by Aline on Jul 1, 2012 1:29:25 GMT 1
agree, valentina. this is a site for vanessa's fans so we should talk about her, not johnny. most of people here seems to be more on johnny's favour than vanessa's.
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The people commenting on this site claim to have seen him personally 
we should do the same, my humble and sincere opinion